Prussian corp

Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Cheltenham

This a sample of the style of army organisation in
Victory in the Ages rules set and its very much like an American or German list in FOW

Brigadier ( 2 models)

Infantry Battalion 1
4 companies (8 stands)
full strenght light artillery battery ( 4 guns) 2 stands

Infantry Battalion 2
4 companies (8 stands)
full strenght light artillery battery ( 4 guns) 2 stands

Infantry Battalion 3
4 companies (8 stands)
full strenght light artillery battery ( 4 guns) 2 stands

Infantry Battalion 4
4 companies (8 stands)
full strenght light artillery battery ( 4 guns) 2 stands

Grenadier Battalion
3 companies ( 6 stands)

Light Cavalry
3 squadrons ( 3 stands)

Light Cavalry
3 squadrons ( 3 stands)

Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 16

Sixteen guns for four battalions of infantry?

Site Admin Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 174

I know I don't have nearly that many gun models.

Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Cheltenham

I used to have an extra infantry battalion but i had less cavalry and 1/2 battries on the infantry

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 55 Location: Washington

Would 16 guns for 4 battalions of infantry even happen on the battlefield? Maybe we found something wrong with those rules...

Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Cheltenham

i wondered that so might divide the artillery into 1 per stand but a smaller base?

Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 16

I'd have to look it up, but I don't remember the Prussians fielding battalion guns during 1812. I'm much more fluent with the Prussians in 1813 rather than their efforts in Russia alongside the French, so I could be wrong. At any rate, I'd expect to see at least twice the battalions you have with half the guns. Eight battalions with eight guns in one battery seems much more like a Prussian brigade rather than four with 16.

Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Cheltenham

Hows this instead based on the 2nd corp at waterloo

5th Infantry Brigade GM von Tippelskirch
2ND Infantry regiment
5th Infantry regiment
25th Infantry regiment
10TH Brigade of light artillery

6th Infantry Brigade GM von Krafft
9th Infantry regiment
26th Infantry regiment
1st Infantry regiment
5th Brigade of light artillery

Kavallerie brigade Ltn Colonel von Sohr
3rd Hussars
5TH Hussars

1505pts in VIA game system

Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Cheltenham

aswell as a commander

Site Admin Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 174

Doesn't look far off from what I did with Yorck's Corps.
How were you planning to base them up?

Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Cheltenham

Yeah i think i'd do this

Brigadier ( 2 models)

Regiment
Infantry Battalion
4 companies (8 stands)

Infantry Battalion
4 companies (8 stands)

Full strenght light artillery battery ( 4 guns) 2 stands

Regiment
Infantry Battalion
4 companies (8 stands)

Infantry Battalion
4 companies (8 stands)

Full strenght light artillery battery ( 4 guns) 2 stands

Grenadier Battalion either on its own or divided into the infantry battalions.
3 companies ( 6 stands)

Light Cavalry
3 squadrons ( 3 stands)

Light Cavalry
3 squadrons ( 3 stands)

The cavalry are basically un affected but i'd have more battalions into the regiments. so the 6 regiments would mean 12 battalions. I've not added any attachments just for simplicity at the moment but they can always be included.

Joined: 10 Aug 2008 Posts: 100 Location: Miami, FL

That looks like a solid list.Nice mix of infantry,artillery and cavalry.

Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 6 Location: Minnesota, USA

One thing to keep in mind for a generic 1813 Prussian corps is that each 'brigade' (what most folks would call a division) was to consist of 1 regiment of regular infantry, one of reserves, and one of Landwehr. I don' t remember offhand if this was the case for the 1813 spring campaign, but I believe it was more widely implemented in the later (Leipzig) one.

I'll try to remember to check my refs at home tonight.

In case anyone is interested, here's a great OOB for Leipzig... use the drop-down lists to get into the nitty-gritty detail.

French

Allies

Enjoy!

Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 117 Location: Cheltenham

The only reason at the moment their is no differenc between unit types is to allow people to have creative freedom to use any models they wish to represent a Line Battalion so Reservist models, Fusiliers etc so long as they clearly note down it's a Line Battalion.

I am working on a little variation amongst the list to make this less of a gap.
With the ability to have conscript troops allowing you to have landwehr and a Reservist option to have slighty reduced Line but not as bad as Landwehr.

Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 55 Location: Newcastle Australia

Reservists, landwher or militia can be captured using the "Raw or Conscript" points reduction in GL's current army lists.
If an army list for each nation is going to be written then this option should be removed and specific units placed in the list to represent them.