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Rivers
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I'm interested in creating my own battalion-level forces, but I can't find any info on composition or organization. I figure I'll make the mechanics similar to the Soviets in FoW with companies as the smallest operable force. To narrow down the search, I'm looking for the composition of a French Line Infantry Battalion, British Line Infantry Battalion, French Dragoon Squadron, and British Heavy Dragoon [what did the Brits call their cav. battalions???]
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BenS
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I've got a few books on French forces in particular but others as well. 3 companies was the basic but Russians and Austrians usually had 4 companies per Infantry Battalion
French
1 Grenadier Company
2 Line Companies
1 (optional) Light Company
British
1 Grenadier Company
2 Line Companies
Austrian
1 Grenadier Company
3 Line Companies
1 (optional) Jaeger Company (elite light infantry) |
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BenS
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Rivers, I'd say if you want to make a battalion list then look at some real OOBs that should have some info for you. Although I imagine they are more help at Brigade/Division level games. |
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Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:20 pm |
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The easiest thing to do is just take multiple companies. ![Idea](images/smiles/icon_idea.gif) |
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French line battalions (and allies organised on the French model) had 6 companies. 1 x Voltigeur, 4 x Fusilier (line), 1 x Grenadier. Each coy had @120 men.
French Guard battalions had 4 companies of @200 men ea.
British line battalions had 10 companies. 1 x light, 8 x centre & 1 x Grenadier. Each coy had @60 men.
British Guards were organised the same but usally had @90 men per coy.
Russians had 4 companies per battalion. 3 x line & 1 x (1/2 light & 1/2 grenadier. Normally 200 men per coy.
Prussian, Austrian + other nations information is available if required.
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Battalion organisation depends on a given year for some countries.
e.g. French Line 1800-03 had 1 Grenadier and 8 Fusilier companies, changing in 1804 to 1 Grenadier, 1 Voltigeur, and 7 Fusilier companies, further changing in 1808 to 1 Grenadier, 1 Voltigeur, and 4 Fusilier companies.
Many of the German states who later joined the CotR followed the Prussian battalion organisation, some did change to the French organisation after joining the CotR. |
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This also depends upon period and even regiment.
Wellington wrote: | How many battalions would make up a Regiment?? |
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:chuckle: "it depends" seems like such a common phrase when studying all things Napoleonic. ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Rivers wrote: | I'm interested in creating my own battalion-level forces, but I can't find any info on composition or organization. I figure I'll make the mechanics similar to the Soviets in FoW with companies as the smallest operable force. To narrow down the search, I'm looking for the composition of a French Line Infantry Battalion, British Line Infantry Battalion, French Dragoon Squadron, and British Heavy Dragoon [what did the Brits call their cav. battalions???]
Thanks,
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Typically, British regiments consisted of one or two battalions. However, in the case of a second battalion, it was usually a 'depot' battalion--- a force kept at home used to re-inforce the losses of the 'in theater' battalion. The composition of the battalion is as yoda explained:
Quote: | British line battalions had 10 companies. 1 x light, 8 x centre & 1 x Grenadier. Each coy had @60 men.
British Guards were organised the same but usally had @90 men per coy |
In addition, the British utilized Rifle battalions, composed of just the eight center companies. As elite units, the Rifles were kept closer to full strength, with 80-100 men per company. The Rifles rarely fought as a battalion--- they were usually deployed in 2-4 company assignments.
There were no cavalry battalions. On paper, the British fielded regiments composed of four squadrons, though it was not unusual to see only two squadrons in the field. A typical squadron was made up of 120 troopers.
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Any time you look at OOB you have to be careful. Theoretical establishment was often way different from reality. For instance:
British battalion in theory had 10 companies each of 100 =1,000
On campaign battalions were rarely this large. By the end of 1811, only 9 of Wellington's battalions had more than 700 men, eleven had under 400. The Foot Guards were the only battalions consistantly near strength (seldom under 800 men.)
The British tended to allow battalions to become depleted where as the French used used draft recruits to keep numbers up. |
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Great site, Evan. I don't know how I missed your post til now. I've added it to my favorites. Thanks
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Yes, that is quite helpful!
It looks kind of familiar. I remember an old site that went down a long time ago that had similarly detailed information on several nations. |
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